I’m referring to the letter to the board member itself, which apparently wasn’t #obvious to readers on HN. What would you propose? A dentist can only sue you for a bad review if the statements are untrue, and harm his reputation. Jay Kim was a fairly fresh venture investor at the time; the model and operation of NXC/Nexon's investment arm was quite different to the traditional … I don't think the lead investor's name is necessarily 6 characters. Was your lawsuit about a bad review? Is it just me, or do people in the tech startup world know this personality type all too well? [1] https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/melt-shop. Seriously. This is why venture investing exists - to chase those non-traditional businesses that have the promise / potential to generate huge returns. Outing the investor here will cause significant, irreparable reputational damage to the investor. You can look it up on the Internet Archive. 1) The accusations are currently unsubstantiated, 2) The reputational damage to the investor is already significant and largely irreversable, 3) Outing the investor here will significantly increase the reputational damage to the investor. This is why "businesses" like WeWork are so divorced from business reality. I recommend this TED talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/jon_ronson_when_online_shaming_goe... 1) Contact the accused party and ask him for a written response. But your point is valid as well - nobody wants to jump onto a ship that's about to go down. I love taking pictures of people playing sports at all levels. Imagine if the CEO was a sociopath who is both adept at manipulating public opinion and out to destroy the investor's reputation. However, keeping shitty people protected by keeping the info private does nobody any good. I don’t know the details but it seems possibly important, not just for show? Unless you are 100% sure you are correct, all speculation should be avoided since you could cause severe damage to others by misattribution. Great lesson for all. It was one of the more interesting companies profiled and I found the module very cool. Not just for show; doing it this way likely spares that person's SEO. Why do you feel the need to do what the author chose specifically not to? The CEO went out of his way to make the board member as easy to identify as he could, short of spelling his name out. Not just the guy he's writing about, but even just venture and this guy himself. Yet, if Ryan Caldbeck chose not to name and shame, it is not my business to out someone. “A dentist can only sue you for a bad review if the statements are untrue” and, “Overall it's just very hard in the US to sue someone for telling the truth about how awful you are.”. Put another way, not everyone wants to do the same things you do. It seems like the only way to escape is to become a CEO, make millions, and buy a bubble of eternal happiness as Ryan has done. You can look it up on the Internet Archive. What is involved in this process that takes 2 years? Select this result to view Jay Choe Kim… Some are built to flip. > but if you work with an asshole it’s not your responsibility to shield him. 2 - no, I disagree strongly for two reasons: Keeping information in a quiet private forum makes it inaccessible to people at large. Any credit fund vehicle(s) or credit fund related activities referenced on this site are separately managed private fund(s) managed by CircleUp Credit Fund Advisors, LLC, a wholly owned subsidiary of CircleUp … Given that the accusations are based on unsubstantiated claims, outing the investor is wrong. It is also relevant to the story. Naming the investor is counterproductive. Ryan explicitly calls Dan Ciporin "a great board member" in his blog post. Accomplishments provide empirical knowledge of one’s hypothetical and private judgements. It's amazing how childish and unprofessional the board member had behaved. Given the timeline, that he was lead investor, the name length, the experience of the VC, the current and past board members, it’s easy to figure out the missing name. > That said, I do wonder how Elon Musk, who's simultaneously trying to send humanity to Mars, convert the world to electric cars and solar panels, and create direct neural uplinks doesn't crack from the pressure though. This means the next CEO who runs up against this investor is mostly completely unaware of their past actions. Note that, in Ryan's letter, he cites board issues from 2016 to 2019. What forum should he be outed in exactly? Adding the google cache. https://docs.google.com/document/d/17tEc9ETL4tjfTmNbpwJJ5OSx... https://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2015/01/60650-lending-club-... https://twitter.com/ricburton/status/1316945844315238401?s=2... https://twitter.com/cshapiro/status/1317212694529802242?s=20. ... Big Investors. Bad investors, bad board members, and even bad incubators are a dime a dozen. The specifics of the business really don't matter. I don’t think there’s anything particularly wrong about it, but it’s sad for his kids. Given the timeline, that he was lead investor, the name length, the experience of the VC, the current and past board members, it’s easy to figure out the missing name. Board members end up choosing the CEO, do they not? Oh yeah you can watch datapoints, brainscans and talk to experts for years, but listen to what you feel is enough. There is absolutely nothing wrong with knowing about, and discussing who it is and possibly who else has had the same experiences - as long as it isn’t mudslinging but a professional discussion. At the time, I told a teammate that it felt like I was playing seven-dimensional chess because of the complexity of the negotiations combined with so many conflicting challenges at work. You may think I'm overstating the potential damage, but I think people generally underestimate the damage the internet mob can inflict on a person. And even if the VC was identified, if the writer didn't invent any of those stories (you wanted inaccuracy, right? Jay Kim was a fairly fresh venture investor at the time; the model and operation of NXC/Nexon's investment arm was quite different to the traditional VC. Collaborative Fund is an "anchor investor" in CircleUp's $3 million … It took a while for me to realise what was happening and actually start taking care of myself - it's criminally easy to get stressed behind your own back. CircleUp said Monday that it teamed up with Collaborative Fund to finance more consumer-product startups. This is similar to how priests were quietly shuffled around parishes. I recommend this TED talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/jon_ronson_when_online_shaming_goe... 1) Contact the accused party and ask him for a written response. The world of silicon valley-style startups and tech entrepreneurship is so full of drama and intrigue. I looked into this and it's actually quite difficult to definitively identify who is being referenced. But otherwise, I've found that you simply acclimate over time. There are so many things in life that I am curious about like singing, drawing, gardening, bird watching, etc. A gem of a writeup by Ryan. There are a couple options that come to mind: 1 isn't a terrible idea in most circumstances but with investors you're more likely to get a C&D than a fair response given the line of work and the importance of reputation to the process. I remember letting go of someone I had known since college. Naming this 1 investor focuses the discussion on that single investor, rather than bringing awareness to the situation itself, and how commonly these things happen (yet how rarely anyone talks about it). I wasn't considering the series C because the timelines didn't really add up, but I took a second look and it actually fits the points in the letter. Wow, this really struck home with me. See: The company is … Mind blowing right? Jay has 5 jobs listed on their profile. I'd find myself getting dizzy and lightheaded out of the blue while doing nothing more than sitting. CircleUp’s Classifier compiles and … This means the next CEO who runs up against this investor is mostly completely unaware of their past actions. How do you substantiate an accusation like "you insisted on talking to me at 3AM local time after I just stepped off a plane after a 18 hour flight" (or whatever the deets are)? I'm sure she was an adult when she joined, fully capable of making her own decisions and weighting up pros and cons. Nobody likes to date people who are trashing, Fair enough. After that it's very hard to fully take advantage of major new insights you've had. I don't think there is a legal argument here. The 6-page e-mail sent to the difficult former board member is interesting: Some people are agreeing with you, but I actually don't agree. Any advice for us?". Series A was led by USV and the email already ruled them out. Money brings so much suffering and our entire society is built on it. It's been three years since Collaborative Fund was founded to invest in startups in the collaborative … Why not just downgrade your lifestyle to be in a cheaper situation? Details aside the emotions are all the same. They'd all come and go. While I feel for the guy's struggle with cancer and the fertility issues he and his wife went through, I'm seeing the same tone in some of his other tweet threads (and threads from other people) and it's starting to feel like an intentional pattern done for audience building. my daughter looked at me and said, “Daddy, you always look so sad”. What on earth was the co-founder doing? Further, Collaborative Fund no longer lists CircleUp anywhere on its site. just playing 'respect' to ego psychos for an in fact empty basket filled with $$$ paper. Not sure what sort of due diligence can sniff these jerks out before they join the board, and maybe it's not even possible to turn them away if it's a condition of getting investment. That’s terrible news and I’m very sorry for you. I only remember a pair of words from the first conversation with my doctor: “two tumors”. It warns many first time CEO's of the dark side of raising money from naive VC's who never ran a company before becoming VC. Like as if he is some sort of... oh i don’t know... a human being with emotions and feeling. Greed has been prevalent throughout history. > When at a board meeting at USV you stopped the meeting and said “guys we just aren’t focused on the right issues, this company has less than 6 months left.” One of the other board members said “ What are you looking at?” (You later realized you weren’t doing the math correctly). "Life, if you know how to use it, is long. I really wonder when this cycle of typical HN cliches will go away. $1.2 million from Collaborative Fund. I'm not a CEO, nor do the livelihoods of people depend on me. Which, I don't doubt he went through all this, but just can't help the bad taste in my mouth given the "I'm just selflessly saying things to help others" tone. Collaborative Fund, CircleUp Partner to Back B Corps. If you read this Ryan - thanks for being part of it, and all the best for the future. Whenever I write something like this I've found I end up constructing each tweet a bit like a lengthy bullet point. I hate my work. I agree. With those little details left out, it's just another powerful individual complaining about how hard it is to be powerful and wealthy. https://www.ted.com/talks/jon_ronson_when_online_shaming_goe... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_stair. And ofc you might have extenuating circumstances that prevent it. The stress of all these things happening to me at once was colossal. Any advice for us?". > Keeping the info private does nobody any good. Online shaming often gets out of hand and goes too far. I had a business fail, an 8 year relationship break down (got cheated on) and in the middle of all of that they found a syrinx in my spine and a few months later I got diagnosed with Chrohns. Board members don't know about or care about traditional business needs. Yet you lost years of your life, plus all your kids' early childhood fretting over terrible bosses. CircleUp is the investment platform providing capital and resources to innovative, early-stage consumer brands with a modern, scalable approach to private markets. Given the above, I really don't see how it's fair to out the investor before substantiating the accusations or giving the investor time to respond. I've never written anything about that time, despite wanting to, but this is the thread I wish I could write. That's the kind of stuff I want to know. If you can find a way to turn a grilled cheese business into a billion-dollar return-generating vehicle, then the VC will invest in it. I’m doing a Reforge program now and hungry to keep doing similar. This is an honest warning showing the real consequences of that incorrect view. > By outing the guy, you are presuming him guilty and inflicting steep punishment when he could be innocent. YC and many other founder networks have investor databases for this purpose. Very revealing at the board level. Nobody likes to date people who are trashing, Fair enough. He confirmed its him but denies the accusations. Because of greed and the blindness it brings with it, any attempts to build even a slightly more benign economic arrangement gets immediately labeled as "socialist" or some such. Yes for all the people who didn't know about Tesla or Elon Musk. I think just publishing the event without posting the email leaves enough of a trail for another CEO to reach out and ask "Hey, we're going to work with XYZ and know he used to be on your board. A lot of people especially here in the US are always invoking liability. The more I see around me and our nation at large, the more I am forming the opinion that greed is THE defining attribute of our time. “Making an impact” is the best answer, but then it should be something more humane than financial. And the answer is fairly obvious: audience, and forceful conciseness thanks to the platform constraints. Or maybe... get this... people have an opinion? Interesting read, but one thing that always strikes me reading this kind of story is how invested founders are in things that -- I'm sorry to say -- are not exactly earth shattering. Rihanna invested in Partake Foods, a Black-owned allergy-friendly food brand that just closed a $4.8 million Series A financing round. That's definitely adding positive value in my book. It gives no room for filler text and every paragraph/tweet needs to have its own point. He'll be fine. How do you substantiate an accusation like "you insisted on talking to me at 3AM local time after I just stepped off a plane after a 18 hour flight" (or whatever the deets are)? That's a very good letter. Where are you seeing the current and past board members? I guess the other question is... if there is good to be done, and being this kind of person causes a certain amount of help to hurting communities, does this form of vulnerability capitalism have a downside? That’s what I’m trying to diff against but I can’t find good sources. The email also adds context to Vinod Kosla's famous message: https://techcrunch.com/2013/09/11/vinod-khosla/. sounds like Craig Shapiro is the likely culprit here. The people we let go had joined because they believed in our product and mission. But many many more just fail. Everything in nature must eventually be owned my someone. Persistence was my superpower. > Keeping information in a quiet private forum makes it inaccessible to people at large. There are a few seemingly conflicting bits of info in the letter, like the person is a novice VC investor ("I recognize ---- is your first experience in venture, or as a professional investor") with the fact that they are also the lead investor in one of their rounds ("I still can't believe that is true for the lead of our Series ---"). Overview of CircleUp Growth Capital Fund I. CircleUp Growth Capital Fund I is a closed private equity fund managed by CircleUp. Mmm, yeah. If the author of this email wanted to point a finger at a specific person, they did a bad job. I agree this is the downside of my proposed approach. Gods this is CEOs have become now. They had done nothing wrong, yet suddenly there was no longer a place for them. The email doesn't include the name of the bad guy, and even if it did, if the statements are true, then there is no lawsuit to be had. There is absolutely nothing wrong with knowing about, and discussing who it is and possibly who else has had the same experiences - as long as it isn’t mudslinging but a professional discussion. I'm thankful for that "feedback email", whoever that guy was, he either has a serious case of the Dunning–Kruger effect going on or he deliberately behaved that way to extract money out of a startup by being a total, Reading this is like reading about my own experience. But you also are careful when they trashed their. I'm not saying this is fact. Use the PitchBook Platform to explore the full profile. But, doing so could be ruining an innocent person's life. Indeed. CircleUp is still listed as a current investment on Canaan's site. And, honestly, hackernews is probably the single most relevant forum you could find to discuss this on - it has a general lean toward tech but it is run by ycombinator which is specifically interested in all things investment. The internet mob is merciless, and will very likely ruin this guy's reputation once he's outed. nope. Not just for show; doing it this way likely spares that person's SEO. YC and many other founder networks have investor databases for this purpose. Here's the blog post that goes along with that tweet stream: Holy cow that feedback. The way the economy and society is structured, there is absolutely no breathing room left for anyone to perform any activity except to exist in the service of a paycheck. CircleUp is a well-known fundraising platform for consumer products. Eg encouraging the author to take time off etc. The audience is on Twitter. By the end of it he's got his health back, his kids, an easy job, lots of money. Mmm, yeah. And a range of hangers-on and wantrepreneurs who want to be part of the scene but have no real idea or knowledge on how to build a business. Most outright defamatory articles just end in a "Welp, sorry? I'm saying it's possible. For the next several months, my emotions would sometimes pour out in a tidal wave of tears and yelling. You may think I'm overstating the potential damage, but I think people generally underestimate the damage the internet mob can inflict on a person. These days my health is under control, the chrohns is stable, the medication works for quality of life, I have a good well paid job and I met the love of my life so between now and that beach is 6 years and a universe apart but man, you don’t see the signs until afterwards eh. The company's in good shape - everyone's a winner. She turned to me and said, “I took this job over something that paid more, and now what should I do?” These agonising decisions kept me up at night for weeks, and I know it was much harder on those affected. I don't see how my accomplishments, or lack thereof, have any bearing on my moral beliefs and expressing them. Very doubtful. It sometimes surprises me that wikipedia can be gamed this easily. When I write a blog post I naturally end up optimising for writing quality, and what could have been 5 tweets ends up as 1,500 words. > and I would be surprised if the CircleUp CEO didn't realise this. The 6-page e-mail sent to the difficult former board member is interesting: Some people are agreeing with you, but I actually don't agree. Sure you can, to a degree substantial enough to afford the entire advertising industry. VCs don't invest in businesses as much as they invest in return-generating vehicles. As further evidence of how murky this is, several people in the comments below have named different people as the person being referenced. I was thinking more along the lines of his name not appearing in this discussion's title means people searching his name might not find this discussion. I hope he can find back to a more satisfying life with lots of lifetime, enjoying doing fun things with his family! Curious. IANAL but don’t think that the outcome in the US would have been the same. Thread Reader really helps for this, given the length (and some weird issues at least for me with twitter web). They have also lived in Lakewood, CO and Hot Sulphur Springs, CO plus 4 other locations. Eyeopening. But, the alternative is a world where someone's reputation can be irreparably damaged by unsubstantiated claims made by one person. I always wonder why people use Twitter for these braindumps? The more I work in this industry the more I resent upper management and boards. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_stair. He, and other board members, tried so hard to do the right thing and convince me to take care of myself.". To this day, I cry every time I go to the cancer center at Stanford. An extra bit of complication seems to be that CircleUp itself seems to be some sort of VC-like operation, so at times I wasn't quite sure if some of the funds they were raising were for CircleUp or. Because they don't need to follow the typical path of traditional businesses, which are dependent on cash flow and customers and mostly industry or region-specific competition. I hope, predicated on the notion that this isn't for you, you don't give up on developing another career path. It didn't take me long to figure out who the seeming douche bag of an ex-board member is, despite being half a world away from the US and Valley intrigue. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_stair. Share Us With The World Relationship Science 5 … If you read the email it states that the investor was a lead. Well. Curiously, a 2015 article lists the Canaan board memeber as Daniel Ciporin. Not to mention the absolute beating our natural environment and habitat is taking in the process of servicing this greed to accumulate as much as you possibly can. They will say I am not a bad person to work with and this inaccurate statements have affected my reputation. The entrepreneurship ecosystem is full of narcissists, blowhards, and self-important people who believe that since they are managing other people's money they therefore have more wisdom and insight than anyone else. If the CEO arrives with only a few months of runway, their first tasks will be to cut burn rate by laying off many of the employees. 2015 Vintage USD 22m Size Buy and sell stakes in CircleUp Growth Capital Fund … It was the push I needed to change. "Vulnerability porn" is an intensely annoying trend among Twitter tech personalities. I agree that the problematic investor shouldn't be outed here. 2 - no, I disagree strongly for two reasons: Keeping information in a quiet private forum makes it inaccessible to people at large. [edit] Is giving the accused a platform to defend himself that unpopular of an opinion? I agree this is the downside of my proposed approach. >> There is absolutely nothing wrong with knowing about, and discussing who it is. He even admits to taking this investment and giving up a board seat without ever meeting in person. Collaborative Fund will get access to the CircleUp pipeline of startups, which it uses proprietary algorithmic technology to analyze. It follows then that if you're building a VC investment-return generating vehicle then what you're doing is not the same as building a "normal" business. Therefore, it is not likely to be their best option, which means the candidates who are interested are more likely to be not-so-great CEO candidates. Why? But hey, maybe I've just grown to be overly cynical after spending too much time around growth marketers. Similar to the letter. https://www.ted.com/talks/jon_ronson_when_online_shaming_goe... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_stair, https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40611328-ishmael, https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/melt-shop, https://online.hbs.edu/courses/disruptive-strategy/. I liked someone's comment about preferring to let the focus be on Ryan's journey, and I suppose that many others here must be feeling a sense of kinship with a fellow entrepreneur as he described candidly and courageously his version of "The Struggle.". Here we are deep into a comment thread about a completely different company and you are spreading elon's message about the price chance of his product for free. Naming this 1 investor focuses the discussion on that single investor, rather than bringing awareness to the situation itself, and how commonly these things happen (yet how rarely anyone talks about it). I'm saying that we should keep the identifying info private until the accusations are substantiated. Indeed, they have several notable repeat entrepreneur relationships. It didn’t used to exist in tech. The investor isn't here to defend himself, and outing him will cause him irreparable (and perhaps undue) reputational damage. I’d say Elon Musk has been acting more and more erratically as time has gone on. So this guy fired a college buddy who chose to work for him instead of a better-paying job. An extra bit of complication seems to be that CircleUp itself seems to be some sort of VC-like operation, so at times I wasn't quite sure if some of the funds they were raising were for CircleUp or. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1316730252295454720.html. You only have one life to live. Please don't underestimate the consequences of your actions. So the censorship is mostly for show. VCs invest in the businesses that don't fit those molds. I see them as slightly less crazy, but just as annoying as our dear president. I care about my managers but I don't care about the projects. If you highlight the name, the highlighted text is {{14}}. 1) The accusations are currently unsubstantiated, 2) The reputational damage to the investor is already significant and largely irreversable, 3) Outing the investor here will significantly increase the reputational damage to the investor. Updated Aug. 18, 2014 7:03 am ET New York City-based venture firm Collaborative Fund, and CircleUp, the … Thank you for sharing this. This is similar to how priests were quietly shuffled around parishes. One commenter has edited their comment to change the person being accused. Why now? As an avid philanthropist, Jay … Online shaming often gets out of hand and goes too far. CEOs who believe that their title means they deserve respect. As a person who is susceptible to the same degree of stress and mental health toil, let’s not make the story about the investor but rather around the stresses of being a CEO. I don't think the lead investor's name is necessarily 6 characters. 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